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Patrick Nugent's avatar

Interesting post. Of all the places in the world that this could happen, it was in the one city in Germany that I have visited!

What are these things? Why do they visit us? What does it mean?

Hilary White's avatar

You have chosen wisely.

Dean Cooper's avatar

Okay, I listened to more of the podcast, and I was surprised you assumed "fundamentalists" say NHI must be demons because they have no other categories.

When I first heard about the crazy UFO stuff back in the 80's, I spent all of two hours online (pre-Internet) and quickly found reports of aliens showing people holographic videos of Jesus on the cross, and telling them they had sent Jesus to us to help us, but we misunderstood. Other reports claimed aliens had evolved past eating food, and instead applied nutrition directly onto their skin. Except they really preferred human blood. Thankfully (ha, ha), they agreed with the U.S. government not to take humans for this purpose and only take cows instead.

Maybe those were false reports. But it sure made me think this is demonic. Not because I didn't have a category for aliens (I knew plenty of sci-fi).

Then you add in the occult style practices people use to contact UAP's, or the spiritual style "downloads" that people get from these things, or how the aliens leave when the name of Jesus is used... well they may not be demons, but they sure sound demon-adjacent.

Aren't you a bit concerned that they are malevolent?

Also Protestants are far from all being cessationists. Pentecostals and Charismatics (hundreds of millions of them) are not.

I was also surprised you thought that Christians will expect God to step in before things get really awful. Why would you think that, when early church history saw many killed for their faith? How can you have a deception so great that it will deceive even the elect if God steps in to prevent it?

Here's what I'm expecting. Step by step disclosures - the same way demons reveal themselves slowly to people who are in contact with them. They first appear as good beings (angels). But then they change the story. It's the lies that will reveal what you're dealing with. Believe whatever you want, but watch for the lies.

Dean Cooper's avatar

I skipped over the first half of the podcast to get to the more interesting recent stuff (who has time for three hour podcasts?), but I was a bit surprised on how negative you were of the Collins Elite. I have no idea who they really are, but from the descriptions, if I was in the Pentagon, I think I'd be part of them as well. Once you've seen that there is a lot of demonic stuff going on with UAP's and NHI's, you naturally begin to see this as a grand deception. Who wants that?

Someone quoted them as saying that "disclosure itself is the deception event".

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's exactly what I'm seeing. Just take the documentary The Age of Disclosure. They leave out about 70% of the UFO stuff on purpose. All the woo stuff that would cause people to back away. Instead they only push that this is real, that there are super advanced technologies here, and we need the government to disclose so humanity can be helped. Given that frame, people will pressure Congress to get full disclosure.

The problem is that people don't know what else is there that will come with the supposed advanced tech. If you thought nefarious entities were wanting to oppress mankind instead of helping us, wouldn't you want to avoid letting that genie out of his bottle?

My thinking is that the Collins Elite are the heroes here. What am I missing?

By the way, Substack is the only "social media" I'm on. I never have the problem you mentioned about being polarized. I have no audience to push me. Thank God for that.

Hilary White's avatar

I can't believe you didn't post this on May the 4th.

Steve Skojec's avatar

It wasn't even recorded by then!